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| WMD Summit; Totally not doing this again. *cough* | |
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| Cloud Peoples | Jul 12 2015, 01:57 PM Post #1 |
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{Time Set: In a lull in military activity some time in the VERY near future - basically just a time without a major conflict going on} It had taken many hours of debate within the halls of Freedom House - the centre of government for The Republic of the Cloud Peoples. Over these many hours, the Prime Minister (Edward Hertz) had been persuaded to change his long held ideals on the nation's military and stance of the worldwide state of affairs. In one final push of debating, the PM and his close colleagues - the Minister of Defence, the Minister of Economics, and a few others had been beaten (metaphorically) into submission. It had not made Hertz's day. "Mr. Gràhem". He sighed, "it looks like you'll have to make the preparations. I guess it may be for the best, but whether we like it or not, that's democracy. Get to it immediately please". "Yes sir" was the Minister of Defence's reply. (OOC: Meanwhile the rest of the government and the citizens breathed a sigh of relief. Would the PM finally think about the people for once??:P) He returned to his office and began to write:
[OOC: I basically just copied this from the last thread - ignore the original and pretend I never started it  I'm looking for response (in a letter form if possible) within the next 3 days. I shall then outline the information about the venue, travel to the venue, and what can be expected. Then in about 5 or so days, the Summit will start. If you do not get a reply in before it starts we can imagine you have and go from there] |
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| Great Scourge | Jul 21 2015, 03:05 AM Post #61 |
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... but that makes no sense if war itself was a deterrent then explain every single war ever it makes no sense oh my god |
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| Yusukistan | Jul 21 2015, 04:10 AM Post #62 |
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Bishop Inbelial stands while the guard behind him announces: "His Most Reverence Inbelial Beelzebane: Prince of Yusukistan, Bishop of the Citta Basilica." The Bishop clears his throat. "Why doth we not merely do away with the idea of war altogether. Why do we not just solve all international issues diplomatically instead of militarily?" |
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| Great Scourge | Jul 21 2015, 04:26 AM Post #63 |
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Dominus stares at him, dumbfounded. "... Because economic sanctions would be so helpful to get Yusukistan to not commit human rights abuses. Ha! And because everyone would become peace-loving hippies. Ha! Sometimes, war is the only way to get things done. If diplomacy could solve everything, trust me, war wouldn't exist in the modern world." |
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| Yusukistan | Jul 21 2015, 04:41 AM Post #64 |
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Fr. Meticulus stands up quickly, knocking over his chair. "We are not here to criticize each other's nations, Dominus. We are here to work together to better the international community." |
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| Great Scourge | Jul 21 2015, 04:46 AM Post #65 |
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"If I offended you, then I apologize. What I mean is, with some nations, like your own or more recently Wakriinja, diplomatic overtures for the purpose of improving human rights would not work, though I do admit that we hardly tried with Yusukistan. Sorry about the whole mass-killing thing. And the whole occupation, really. I've tried to get it removed, I promise." |
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| Velkand | Jul 21 2015, 08:41 AM Post #66 |
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"I am curious as to what action we're going to take to prevent total thermonuclear armageddon, as much a deterrentas it is. Dominus, do you have any ideas?" |
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| Cewania | Jul 21 2015, 10:07 AM Post #67 |
 
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One of the Cewanian guards suddenly speaks up: If you would put the money you use for nuclear weapons into systems that can shoot down ICBMs you maybe wouldn't have to worry about nuclear annihilation that much. And the idea that the only thing... Chansz nudges him. The guard stops talking. |
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| Flamels Stone | Jul 21 2015, 11:49 AM Post #68 |
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''So ,dear Scourgii, you find that war is justified if it used to improve human rights? I agree, sometimes you need to use fear to get things done. But tell me why do you need WMD for a war to help the civilians? Surely you can't select who to target with an enormous blast radius or with a fast spreading disease. Also, if your nations don't have a war because of possible mutual annihilation, why would you have a war without WMDs? It would lead to same end, very slowly, but surely both nations wouldn't be in good shape in the end. And, again, if you want to use WMD in space then do so! Why can't we limit this law to our star-system and you fight in the middle of nowhere? I don't mind you exploding yourselves up far away.'' |
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| Great Scourge | Jul 21 2015, 05:04 PM Post #69 |
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"Mr. Flamel, the WMD issue is not related to war for the purpose of improving human rights. Cewania just led us off track. And, believe it or not - nuclear weapons can be targeted like bunker buster bombs. And don't bring it back to the issue of slow war - we all know that not all nations have equal military power, and some nations have allies. A weapon of mass destruction is a deterrent because a nation that has WMDs, when invaded, is extremely unlikely to sit by and not retaliate. Mind you, I'm basically only talking about nuclear weapons now. Further, if a nation with nuclear weapons is attacked with nuclear weapons, then they will be able to retaliate in kind and nobody wants that. Further, if a nation is allied to a nation with nuclear weapons, it inspires caution," dryly and boredly states Hanke. "And, finally, if not all nations were to follow a ban on nuclear weapons, then surely would not our morally superior arses be roasted in thermonuclear fire? Outright banning and all-at-once disarming does not sound appealing." "And so, I present this: a slow but steady disarming of all nuclear weapons, compounded with immediate disarming of chemical and biological weapons. The slow disarming prevents those nations with nuclear weapons from the fear of being suddenly attacked left and right, while overall still bringing the risk to the world down. A maximum cap of ten nuclear weapons of class two at most should suffice. For those of you unaware, class two nuclear weapons utilize multiple fission charges to compress and heat DT fuel to such a degree that it undergoes nuclear fusion, thus dramatically increasing the explosive yield." The other Scourgii nod in agreement. |
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| Cewania | Jul 21 2015, 05:21 PM Post #70 |
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If two advanced armies fire nuclear weapons at each other they will counterfire the carrying ICBM devices. The nuclear warheads will be intercepted halfway in their path detonating between the two armies. This will endanger countries in between the two armies. Not the two armies or countries that are actually at war. Anyway I agree with your proposal but i would like to add one condition. And that is to use only 4th generation nuclear weapons to minimize radioactive fallout. |
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| Great Scourge | Jul 21 2015, 09:50 PM Post #71 |
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"No!" scream the Scourgii, all at once... though Fleur screams "Nein!" "I refuse to allow another generation of nuclear weapons to scar this planet!" exclaims Justyn. "Besides, think of the damage it would do to the use of fusion for peaceful purposes! Suddenly, there'd be even MORE people on your back for processing tritium!" |
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| Velkand | Jul 21 2015, 10:16 PM Post #72 |
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Tanjansa nods thoughtfully at the Scourgii's plan,"I like your plan, it's quite effective to reduce the genocidal destruction these weapons can bring. Though, with the Sarstentarn system that is in place, we may have difficulty scrapping the more powerful nuclear weapons in our silos." |
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| Cewania | Jul 21 2015, 10:53 PM Post #73 |
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Are you serious ? You don't want to minimize the risk of radioactive fallout because it would throw a darker light onto tritium usage ? ...he stops for a bit... Ernsthaft ? Ihr leute wollt das radiologisches risiko nicht niedrigern denn es würde Tritium schlecht aussehen lassen ? ...he stand up and walks away saying " I'll be back in a minute " |
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| Great Scourge | Jul 21 2015, 11:03 PM Post #74 |
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Fleur gives a sigh of relief. "Finally! Ugh, I hate him..." states Simin. Hanke and Justyn still have their palms attached to their forehead. |
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| Velkand | Jul 21 2015, 11:55 PM Post #75 |
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"I don't understand the Cewanians either..." |
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| Ankshara. | Jul 22 2015, 03:32 PM Post #76 |
 
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Steinn Mayes and Angela Macina arrive in the room late, followed by armed guards carrying a rather heavy table with a screen on it. Macina un-sarcasticlly comments "We brought the Elektronisch." |
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| Flamels Stone | Jul 29 2015, 02:05 AM Post #77 |
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''You know I've got an Idea.'' Bradley spoke with a mad look on his eyes. '' Why don't we give nucular weapons to everyone? After all fear causes peace. I totally agree with the Scourgii.'' Mathew seems neutral to his speech and looks at the other on the room. |
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| Great Scourge | Jul 29 2015, 02:15 AM Post #78 |
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"Oh, what next? Are you going to tell me why nuclear power is bad because it can cause horrid meltdowns every quarter of a century or so and therefore it should never be used, or maybe because old models have difficult-to-deal-with waste? Lecture me on why golden rice is somehow 'bad' because it doesn't solve everything? Ruin cultural landmarks of other nations with some dumb motto? Ignore science and history by yelling in a vaguely socialist manner, if science and history contradict you? Look, if you don't believe the lack of nuclear weapons makes people more likely to go to war, look at the number of wars between states, where both states have nuclear weapons. Zero, on this planet at least! Further, look at the number of wars between states ever since nuclear weapons were developed. It dropped significantly and has NEVER went to the previous levels," explains Lord Wiegand. |
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| Ankshara. | Jul 29 2015, 02:20 AM Post #79 |
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"NO!" Macina and Mayes both pound their fist on the table. |
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| Yusukistan | Jul 29 2015, 02:22 AM Post #80 |
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"While it is true that nuclear weapons may be used to maintain peace: there are some men who merely wish to watch the world burn." Archbishop Inbelial points out.
Edited by Yusukistan, Jul 29 2015, 02:23 AM.
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